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Ogre3D Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:48 pm

Hello everyone,

I'm in the middle of optimizing my game's turn times. Which means lots of hands off time profiling simulations. I saw Scrap Mechanic sitting on top of the Steam Early Access sales chart. So out of curiosity (and boredom not being able to program until the profiling is finished) I decided to make a chart of Ogre3d based games sales on Steam.

These are sales as of January 26th's reported numbers by SteamSpy. SteamSpy calculates these numbers by checking a list of games owned by a random sampling of profiles. Then using statistic comes up with the approximate amount of copies owned/given away. I can only say with my game sales, the numbers are pretty close to accurate (roughly 5% +/-) The more copies sold the more accurate the approximations will be.

If I am missing any Ogre3d games, please let me know! I gathered a list from the wikipedia page, and the Ogre Wiki Projects page. As well various google searches, log files, and your feedback.

Please note this is only copies sold on Steam and not other platforms. Sales are estimated and rounded down to prevent chart fluctuations due to margin of error in the estimations. As such sales numbers listed here are probably lower than actual units sold, however they should provide an accurate measurement of the minimum number of games sold.

Visit the wiki for sortable columns, links, reviews, and more information: http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-ind ... ef_id=2187

The rounding is as follows:
Medium number of units owned in the last 2 weeks.
<1,000 rounded down by the hundreds.
<10,000 rounded down by the thousands.
<100,000 rounded down by the 5 thousands.
<200,000 rounded down by the 10 thousands.
<1,000,000 rounded down by the 25 thousands.
>1,000,000 rounded down by the 100 thousands.



Estimated Minimum Steam Sales as of June 15th

Rank-Sales-Game-Change In Position
  1. 3400000*--Torchlight II
  2. 1400000 ---Torchlight
  3. 475000& ---Scrap Mechanic
  4. 400000* ---Victory: The Age of Racing (F2P)
  5. 375000 ----Rebel Galaxy
  6. 250000 ----Damned
  7. 250000 ----Running with Rifles
  8. 225000 ----Zombie Driver +2
  9. 200000 ----The Book of Unwritten Tales -1
  10. 200000 ----DUNGEONS - Steam Special Edition -1
  11. 170000* ---Warside (F2P)
  12. 170000 ----Sinister City
  13. 170000 ----Dungeons the Dark Lord
  14. 130000 ----Kenshi
  15. 120000* ---DRAKERZ (F2P)
  16. 120000 ----Zero Gear
  17. 110000 -----The Book of Unwritten Tales The Critter Chronicles
  18. 100000-----Alchemy Mysteries: Prague Legends
  19. 85000 -----Fate of the World
  20. 80000 -----Void Destroyer +21
  21. 65000 -----Primal Fears -1
  22. 65000 -----Garshasp: The Monster Slayer -1
  23. 60000 -----Nimbus -1
  24. 60000 -----Catan: Creator's Edition -1
  25. 60000 -----Pacific Storm: Allies -1
  26. 55000 -----Pacific Storm -1
  27. 50000 -----Sacraboar -1
  28. 50000 -----Sickbrick -1
  29. 45000 -----M.U.D. TV -1
  30. 40000 -----APOX -1
  31. 40000 ------Garshasp: Temple of the Drago -1n
  32. 35000 -----Dead Hungry Diner -1
  33. 30000 -----Ceville -1
  34. 30000 -----Venetica -1
  35. 30000 -----Vector Thrust -1
  36. 30000 -----Legends of Pegasus -1
  37. 30000 -----Jack Keane -1
  38. 30000 -----Shadows: Heretic Kingdoms -1
  39. 25000 -----Salvation Prophecy -1
  40. 25000* ----RaceCraft -1
  41. 25000 -----Vitrum -1
  42. 25000 -----Battlezone 98 Redux +2
  43. 20000 -----Ankh 2 -1
  44. 20000 -----Kromaia -1
  45. 20000 ------Emergency 2016 -1
  46. 15000 -----Ankh 3
  47. 15000 -----GearCity
  48. 15000 ------Emergency 2017 +4
  49. 10000 -----Hotel -1
  50. 10000 -----Masterspace -1
  51. 10000 ------I Shall Remain -1
  52. 10000 ------The Body Changer -1
  53. 9000 ------Ankh
  54. 5000 ------MotorM4X
  55. 5000 ------Enemy
  56. 4000 ------Void Destroyer 2 +1
  57. 3000 ------Stained -1
  58. 2000 ------BOMB
  59. 2000 ------Undercover Missions: Operation Kursk K-141
  60. 1000 ------Iron Roses
  61. 800 -------- Sunset Rangers


    *Denotes free weekend, many free copies given out, or free to play.
    &Denotes that the game formerly used Ogre but switched engines while in active development. Updating of sales figures are stopped when project officially starts selling the new engine. (As default build.)

    Visit the wiki for sortable columns, links, reviews, and more information: http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-ind ... ef_id=2187


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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:01 am

So I had a little more time to kill to find some Ogre games. What does all Ogre games have in common? That's right! Ogre Exception!
A quick google search using Steam Ogre Exception yielded a few games I never seen before, on steam, using ogre:


Kromaia
Emergency 2016
Shadows: Heretic Kingdoms
TrackVerse
Haunted (?)
Legends of Pegasus
Warside
Vector Thrust
Damned
Alchemy Mysteries: Prague Legends

I am however going to be an ass and publicly shame Jetdogs Studios, makers of Alchemy Mysteries for being such sticklers that they requested Steam Spy to not list their game. So, get off your high horse Jetdog! Shame shame shame!

*Updating The list now*
Chart will be updated sometime in the future...
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:12 am

Searching the forums I found a few more gems that have gone unnoticed... I've also started a wiki entry with the sales chart and will cross post it with the Community Projects wiki page... I'll link on here when it's ready.

MotorM4X: Offroad Extreme
DUNGEONS - Steam Special Edition
Vitrum
Sacraboar
I Shall Remain
APOX
Proun
Primal Fears


*Updating charts now.*


Please if you know of any finished commercial games, steam or not, post here! I only have so much free time... Soon my program will be running so fast I won't have any time to do silly stuff like this! :mrgreen:
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby xrgo » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:28 am

This is really interesting, thank you very much!
I didn't know most of those games, there must be many more things made with Ogre to find, many not on steam, and many non-game apps (like what I do: simulation)

hey good luck with the profiling :P
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby Zonder » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:37 am

Yeah nice work bronzbeard.

It certainly is interesting I new a lot of them on there were ogre but there is a lot I didn't know!!!
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby spookyboo » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:02 am

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there must be many more things made with Ogre to find, many not on steam, and many non-game apps

That is very true. You would be surprised if you knew which (big) companies have used Ogre.
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby Kojack » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:12 pm

Cateia Games' Hotel is another ogre one. http://store.steampowered.com/app/288750 (found a person on the wine forum saying it wouldn't start because ogremain.dll was missing)
Rebel Galaxy apparently uses Ogre 2.1, but also supports the DX9 renderer, which is a bit odd. http://store.steampowered.com/app/290300 (Looks damn nice)

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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby dark_sylinc » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:06 pm

Wow, Rebel Galaxy looks damn nice! Didn't know about it.
Though I doubt their Ogre 2.1 is our Ogre 2.1
It has DX9 support and I don't see Item factories being registered. Plus it runs on OS X. I read they've licensed the engine from Torchlight, so probably Torchlight made heavy modifications and internally renamed the engine to 2.1
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:24 pm

The Wiki page is up: http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-ind ... ef_id=2187 Go there for links, review scores, and sortable content.

Added some more games, thanks to Kojack.

Sickbrick
Hotel Collectors Edition
Rebel Galaxy
Pulse Shift -- Not on Steam
Homura Combat -- Not on Steam
HitMania! -- Not on Steam

I know there is a f1 like racing game on steam that uses Ogre, I can't remember the name of it though. Also a farming game and some others in the main page... I can't recall their names.

On the topic of RG, the developers comments on about Ogre: http://steamcommunity.com/app/290300/di ... 1428116852

So it's Ogre enough to be Ogre I think. (on a side note, apparently you guys are degenerates... http://steamcommunity.com/app/290300/di ... 9195078537) :roll:
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:36 pm

xrgo wrote:This is really interesting, thank you very much!
I didn't know most of those games, there must be many more things made with Ogre to find, many not on steam, and many non-game apps (like what I do: simulation)

hey good luck with the profiling :P



Oh there are lots of open source games, vaporware, unbuilt engines, cellphone games, and simulators as you mentioned. I didn't document them, but if you come across any feel free to post them on here, and I'll add them to the wiki.

My main purpose of this is to see how well my game (GearCity) is doing compared to other commercial Ogre3D games. Since I make business simulators obviously I love data! :) As a side effect after making this list, I thought it'd be good to share the data/info since the tiki and the showcase is lacking a LOT of information about how wide spread Ogre is being used.


After I'm done profiling, I have to improve AI :'( luckily the game can play it self.
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby xrgo » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:00 pm

bronzebeard wrote: (on a side note, apparently you guys are degenerates... http://steamcommunity.com/app/290300/di ... 9195078537) :roll:

I am not =/
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby dark_sylinc » Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:57 pm

De Blob was originally an Ogre3D game.

It caught the attention of THQ and the game was remade for multiple platforms, and apparently without using Ogre. Not sure if you want to put it on the list.

The Dead Linger first alpha versions were originally released under the Ogre engine. Then later they moved to Unity, and finally settled with Unreal Engine 4.
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:18 pm

dark_sylinc wrote:De Blob was originally an Ogre3D game.

It caught the attention of THQ and the game was remade for multiple platforms, and apparently without using Ogre. Not sure if you want to put it on the list.

The Dead Linger first alpha versions were originally released under the Ogre engine. Then later they moved to Unity, and finally settled with Unreal Engine 4.



I think it'd be better to keep the Commercial List to games that are running Ogre if you were to buy them right now. :)


I did a search of steamdb.info "ogremain.dll". Steamdb list the package manifests of games on steam, so I can see everything using ogremain.dll. Just to double check to make sure said game uses ogre, I'd search the steam forums for info. I also found a few games searching for Ogre.log...

Masterspace
ThunderWheels--DEMO on Steam
Operation Barbarossa: The Struggle for Russia--Not On steam
Symulator Jazdy 2--Not on Steam
Catan: Creator's Edition
Enemy
Dungeons the Dark Lord
Victory: The Age of Racing
Iron Roses
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby loath » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:56 pm

any idea if runic's new game Hob uses ogre?

http://www.hobgame.com
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby Crashy » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:46 am

Just to give precise sales count, at this point we have sold 2,506 units of BOMB ;)

Also, you can add this game (I've worked on it, porting Ogre on Wii & PS3) http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/arth ... -maltazard although I cannot give you how many units were sold.
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:12 pm

Crashy wrote:Just to give precise sales count, at this point we have sold 2,506 units of BOMB ;)

Also, you can add this game (I've worked on it, porting Ogre on Wii & PS3) http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/arth ... -maltazard although I cannot give you how many units were sold.


As mentioned, the lower the sales are the less accurate the stats will be. Sales numbers for anything under 20,000 fluctuate a bit on Steam Spy, but it's within range. Case in point, you're reported to sell 2600 units as of right now on Steam Spy: http://steamspy.com/app/301500

So while not perfect, it's close enough for government work. :)

Thanks for the game, I'll put it on my list.

I'll probably update sales figures in Feb.
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby frostbyte » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:18 pm

i like this thread...figthing the "why should i even consider using ogre?" depression spreading in this community....
if you look at unity survy https://unity3d.com/public-relations you can see clearly that their biggest compatitor is the "Native code/Custom engine" thing

i suggest to make a "sticky thread" on the showcase forums concentrating all the above info( maybe+youtube links )
i think its very important for open-source to attract clients as any potential ogre user/developer can become a valuable asset to this project and community

anyway to add ...https://www.roblox.com
roblox was the most successful ogre based game world, sadly they decisded to drop the millions they made using ogre on their own custom rendrer instead of improving and contributing to the tech that helped them grow...
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby c6burns » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:13 am

frostbyte wrote:sadly they decisded to drop the millions they made using ogre on their own custom rendrer instead of improving and contributing to the tech that helped them grow...
You need someone to call you a waaaaambulance? :cry:
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby frostbyte » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:20 pm

sorry, i don't speak trollish,
i think you reached the wrong forum -
you should go here http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/how-to-create-your-own-game-engine-like-unreal-cryengine-and-unity-engines.382171/
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby dark_sylinc » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:40 pm

Not sure if you're friendly joking between you two, or actually getting offended. To stay on the safe side, calm down and keep the post on topic.
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby cybereality » Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:53 am

Nice job. Didn't realize so many games were using OGRE.
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:45 am

Updated Main Chart as of Feb 1st. (TOP Post)

First off made a typo, Garshasp: Temple of Dragon sold over 30,000 copies. I accidentally put played recently count numbers of 7,000. I've fixed this both in the previous chart below as well as the new chart in the OP.

Mostly margin of error movements in the charts. The next update will be a month away (March 1st-ish) so any major movement trends should be more noticeable.

The only clear sales trend is of course Scrap Mechanic as it has moved into the top 15. Doubling it's sales in 2 weeks. (100% growth is well outside the margin of error! :wink: )


I've added Arthur and the Revenge of Maltazard thanks to Crashy.


anyway to add ...https://www.roblox.com
roblox was the most successful ogre based game world, sadly they decisded to drop the millions they made using ogre on their own custom rendrer instead of improving and contributing to the tech that helped them grow...


Roblox is mentioned in the tiki page. I will not be adding it to my list for the same reason the games dark_sylinc mentioned are not. Roblox no longer ships their game with Ogre. Therefore I can't buy a copy of Roblox today and play an Ogre based video game. So it won't be added to my Ogre Commercial games list. Nor my Ogre-Based Steam Sales chart.


Updating the tiki now. Hope you all enjoy!

Here is the previous Jan 26th 2016 Chart:

Rank-Sales-Game
  1. 3,081,024---Torchlight II
  2. 1,376,365---Torchlight
  3. 221,666----Damned
  4. 198,989----The Book of Unwritten Tales
  5. 173,844----DUNGEONS - Steam Special Edition
  6. 152,108----Zombie Driver
  7. 150,962----Running with Rifles
  8. 140,770----Dungeons the Dark Lord
  9. 115,164----Zero Gear
  10. 107,266----Kenshi
  11. 102,425----Rebel Galaxy
  12. 95,800-----The Book of Unwritten Tales The Critter Chronicles
  13. 76,309-----Fate of the World
  14. 65,160-----Primal Fears
  15. 57,964-----Pacific Storm: Allies
  16. 57,200-----Garshasp: The Monster Slayer
  17. 55,926-----Nimbus
  18. 55,671-----Pacific Storm
  19. 53,904-----Sacraboar
  20. 53,654-----Catan: Creator's Edition
  21. 49,777-----Sickbrick
  22. 43,951-----M.U.D. TV
  23. 38,146-----APOX
  24. 35,944------Garshasp: Temple of the Dragon
  25. 35,161-----Dead Hungry Diner
  26. 34,142-----Scrap Mechanic
  27. 30,575-----Venetica
  28. 26,625-----Ceville
  29. 26,116-----Victory: The Age of Racing
  30. 26,116-----Salvation Prophecy
  31. 25,224-----Jack Keane
  32. 23,313-----Shadows: Heretic Kingdoms
  33. 22,421-----Void Destroyer
  34. 21,912-----Ankh 2
  35. 20,001-----Kromaia
  36. 17,708-----Ankh 3
  37. 17,635-----Vitrum
  38. 14,141-----Hotel
  39. 13,631-----GearCity
  40. 12,739-----Masterspace
  41. 11,975-----Vector Thrust
  42. 8,790------Emergency 2016
  43. 5,878------I Shall Remain
  44. 5,478------Ankh
  45. 2,675------Enemy
  46. 1,911------BOMB
  47. 750--------Iron Roses
  48. 0----------Warside--Free to Play, 118,859 downloads
  49. 0----------Earth Eternal--MMO
  50. 0----------Next Life--Not On Steam
  51. 0----------Heavy Hogur--Not On Steam
  52. 0----------Blocks--Not On Steam
  53. 0----------TrackVerse--Not on Steam
  54. 0----------Legends of Pegasus--Was Released on Steam but removed... Interesting wiki
  55. 0----------MotorM4X: Offroad Extreme--Had a steam page but was removed.
  56. 0----------Proun--Why was this game never released on Steam?!!!
  57. 0----------Pulse Shift--Not On Steam
  58. 0----------Homura Combat--Not On Steam
  59. 0----------HitMania!--Not On Steam
  60. 0----------ThunderWheels--DEMO On Steam
  61. 0----------Operation Barbarossa: The Struggle for Russia--Not On Steam
  62. 0----------Symulator Jazdy 2--Not on Steam
  63. 0----------Alchemy Mysteries: Prague Legends--Too Snobbish to Allow Steam Spy listing. So they get last place.
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby dark_sylinc » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:01 pm

The Body Changer is made with Ogre
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:03 am

dark_sylinc wrote:The Body Changer is made with Ogre


Added.


Next month I'll probably start rounding down the numbers to prevent marginal amount changes. If half of the 22 day bar chart pass the limit that will be the sales numbers.
<1,000 will be rounded by the hundreds.
<10,000 will be rounded by the thousands
<100,000 will be rounded by the 5 thousands
<250,000 will be rounded by the 25 thousands
and >million by the hundred thousands.


Makes for less typing for me too. ;)
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Re: Ogre3d Based Game Sales

Postby EricB » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:20 am

I really need to build a faster computer or find a new hobby. (AMD HURRY UP AND RELEASE ZEN!)


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