vehicle tutorial?

is there any tutorials about how to create a vehicle ?

I'm using: OgreSDK 1.6.1 + VS 8.0
BloodyMess.25Feb2009
PhysX_SDK_2.8.1 + PhysX_9.09.0203_SystemSoftware

Afaik, the vehicle part isn't in BloodyMess yet ?!? Basically, all the things described in the tutorials by me are in (if you also take the non-written parts into account). But as you probably read here, an update is to be published this week with a whole bunch of new things (I've already seen some of them ).

Afaik, the vehicle part isn't in BloodyMess yet ?!? Basically, all the things described in the tutorials by me are in (...)
which tutorials ? I havn't seen any

All the stuff is linked in the NxOgre Portal.

ok, but there is nothing about the vehicles ...

Afaik, the vehicle part isn't in BloodyMess yet ?!? Basically, all the things described in the tutorials by me are in (if you also take the non-written parts into account). But as you probably read here, an update is to be published this week with a whole bunch of new things (I've already seen some of them ).
Yes, as I said, vehicles aren't implemented in BloodyMess yet.

ok, sorry, I misunderstand U...

but, do you know any help's that wouldl show me how to create my own car?

I see that no one cares about my request ...

I would rather interpret it like this: Noone here who can help you at the moment (at least I can't). The only idea I have, is to have a look at NxOgre 0.9 (the previous stable version), where cars, wheels, and torques are implemented and try to build something similar as long as there isn't anything in BloodyMess.

ok, I'll try to do so...

Use NxOgre 1.0.22T'Latest, it has an excellent wheel system.

Is'n it possible only to create one vehicle's dynamics in PhysX and then use it as it is in Ogre, without the need of reverting to NxOgre 1.0.22 Latest ?

Of course, you can also use PhysX natively / directly in your application (NxOgre doesn't do anything different than that).

Well, after testing some PhysX Wheel Shapes demo applicatons and playing with suspension and dumping parameters I didn't saw the realism that I expect for my car simulation. I didn't played yet with D6 Joints, which I've heard it creates more realistic effects because my time is running out and I have to get some good results fast. Vehicle demos from Havok they seem to me much more realistic and I realy don't need more physics effects in my project. I am wondering where can I get that Havok wrapper that betajaen was talking about in this post: http://www.ogre3d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=288929&highlight=&sid=ce193664e1d3d7c4af509e6f4e2718c6. I couldn't find a link to it during my search on ogre3d.org forums. I'll keep searching though.

Thank you.

I wouldn't bother, I haven't worked on that code in a while now. I haven't had time or desire to do it.

I just compiled the source code of "SampleRaycastCar" demo. The .cpp file is located in the "Training Programs" folder of PhysX SDK (2.8.1). After a quick adjustment of 'springRestitution', 'springBias', 'wheelSuspension' and some other parameters, I have seen good results in car's dynamics. I'll see if I can make this work with Ogre , and maybe I'll stick with PhysX after all.

spacegaier wrote:
Of course, you can also use PhysX natively / directly in your application (NxOgre doesn't do anything different than that).

Can I ask hor a hint about a good starting point in getting this write ?

Thank you.

I really recommend you use Bleeding if your going to use Ogre with PhysX and it's NxWheel shape; otherwise you'll end up with a ton of problems when you implement it, which have been solved already.

May I ask you betajaen whether you plan to implement WheelShapes in BloodyMess in the near future ? (perhaps even in 1.5.3 please)

Thank you.

It won't be in 1.5.3, I've nearly finished 1.5.3 now. Apart from testing the height field code (which I can leave out) it's almost ready to be released.

It won't be in 1.5.3, I've nearly finished 1.5.3 now. Apart from testing the height field code (which I can leave out) it's almost ready to be released.
Please don't leave out heightfields. That's one of the things I need to complete my project. I don't want to use an old version, because then the code interface would change, and I'd have to recode it all.

I was talking about testing the Heightfield class. I've written the related classes, and compiled it. But never actually tried using it. It's based of the 1.0.22T'5 code, so it should work.

betajaen wrote:
Use NxOgre 1.0.22T'Latest, it has an excellent wheel system.
Ok, I'll do so. I have Cake running but I really don't know where to start from. Can you please provide me somehow the guide for Bleeding ? This link http://www.nxogre.org/guide/ doesn't work. And also can you please put me on the write direction in quick achieving something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAibQFrUdzs&feature=related with D6 Joints or RayCast Car ? Perhaps some code samples or some demos ? I am really running out of time. On monday I must present a car dynamics simulation and I just can't get a grip on NxOgre. Some quick replies would be VERY apreciated.

From a newbie.

You need to search for anything with "WheelShape", such as this thread.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4838&p=27653&hilit=+WheelShape#p27653

Can you send me the guide for Bleeding ? I can't find it anywhere and I only have some tutorials for BloodyMess which don't fit.

Tnankx!